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“Stay curious. It’s going to help you control your emotions at times when you're like ‘I cannot believe this is going on.’ But if you approach it with curiosity, you'll be thinking how you add value to the business, and you'll approach the way you're thinking and the way you orchestrate the work in a different manner.”
Lilicia Bailey
Sr. EVP & Chief People Officer
CommonSpirit Health
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“Stay curious. It’s going to help you control your emotions at times when you're like ‘I cannot believe this is going on.’ But if you approach it with curiosity, you'll be thinking how you add value to the business, and you'll approach the way you're thinking and the way you orchestrate the work in a different manner.”
Lilicia Bailey
Sr. EVP & Chief People Officer
CommonSpirit Health
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2
“How is (AI) being used commercially? You must understand that. How is the business putting AI in your products or services? How does that impact work? How does that impact skills? How do you price it? If you're not in the pricing discussions, you don't know what's happening to profitability and what your labor rates are going to look like.”
CHRO at NYC meeting, Q4 2025
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"If you're trying to grow, transform or build a resilient workforce, you can't just be relying on static siloed data anymore. What's needed is a deep context, rich task and skills driven view of the entire organization and one that evolves over time. That's your workforce.”
At the first in-person meeting of the 2025 class of the Modern Future CHRO Academy, current and former CHROs shared their best advice with attendees for navigating the first year in the top job.
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“Stay curious. It’s going to help you control your emotions at times when you're like ‘I cannot believe this is going on.’ But if you approach it with curiosity, you'll be thinking how you add value to the business, and you'll approach the way you're thinking and the way you orchestrate the work in a different manner.”
Lilicia Bailey
Sr. EVP & Chief People Officer
CommonSpirit Health
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of
2
“Stay curious. It’s going to help you control your emotions at times when you're like ‘I cannot believe this is going on.’ But if you approach it with curiosity, you'll be thinking how you add value to the business, and you'll approach”
John Smith
CEO & Founder
Other Company
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Stay curious. It’s going to help you control your emotions at times when you're like ‘I cannot believe this is going on.’ But if you approach it with curiosity, you'll be thinking how you add value to the business, and you'll approach the way you're thinking and the way you orchestrate the work in a different manner.
Lilicia Bailey
PhD, Senior EVP & Chief People Officer
CommonSpirit Health
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2
If you're going to be the CHRO, you better have the courage to walk in and tell your CEO—him or her—what they need to hear. If you can't do that, do something else. And I really mean that, because somebody's got to coach them at times. That is the hardest part—sometimes you go in there, you’ve got to duck. You’ve got to be careful. But they need to hear from you.
Kane Calamari
SVP, CHRO & President – Ace Foundation
Ace Hardware
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of
2
No matter how approachable you are, I’ve found that the higher up you go—especially when you get into the CHRO role—people tell you more of what you want to hear versus what you really need to hear. My advice is to have a personal board of directors with people outside the company, inside the company, and in your own organization. [Find] people who are truth tellers; who can be ruthlessly honest about what you’re doing well and not doing so well.
Mirian Graddick-Weir
former CHRO
AT&T and Merck
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2
Your CEO should be your right-hand person—and vice versa. You need to be in sync with your CEO, because if you're not, it's never going to work. Yes, you have to give them feedback. But if you don't believe in the core values and what they're trying to do for the company, then you can't serve the company well.
Jennifer Manchester
CHRO
Fiserv
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of
2
One of the things I underestimated in my first CHRO job was the unique dynamic that you have in managing your relationship with the CEO, your peers on the executive team, and the board. You have to be Switzerland, in some respects. You have to have trust and build credibility with your CEO. But you can't be viewed by your peers on the executive team as a mouthpiece for the CEO. I found that being very open in a discussion with those people about that —and the role I need to play with my peers, with my CEO and the board—helped manage those relationships.
Mike Rude
Operating Partner, Cressey & Company and former CHRO
“Stay curious. It’s going to help you control your emotions at times when you're like ‘I cannot believe this is going on.’ But if you approach it with curiosity, you'll be thinking how you add value to the business, and you'll approach the way you're thinking and the way you orchestrate the work in a different manner.”
Lilicia Bailey
Sr. EVP & Chief People Officer
CommonSpirit Health
1
of
2
“Stay curious. It’s going to help you control your emotions at times when you're like ‘I cannot believe this is going on.’ But if you approach it with curiosity, you'll be thinking how you add value to the business, and you'll approach the way you're thinking and the way you orchestrate the work in a different manner.”
Lilicia Bailey
Sr. EVP & Chief People Officer
CommonSpirit Health
1
of
2
“How is (AI) being used commercially? You must understand that. How is the business putting AI in your products or services? How does that impact work? How does that impact skills? How do you price it? If you're not in the pricing discussions, you don't know what's happening to profitability and what your labor rates are going to look like.”
CHRO at NYC meeting, Q4 2025
1
of
2
"If you're trying to grow, transform or build a resilient workforce, you can't just be relying on static siloed data anymore. What's needed is a deep context, rich task and skills driven view of the entire organization and one that evolves over time. That's your workforce.”
At the first in-person meeting of the 2025 class of the Modern Future CHRO Academy, current and former CHROs shared their best advice with attendees for navigating the first year in the top job.
1
of
2
“Stay curious. It’s going to help you control your emotions at times when you're like ‘I cannot believe this is going on.’ But if you approach it with curiosity, you'll be thinking how you add value to the business, and you'll approach the way you're thinking and the way you orchestrate the work in a different manner.”
Lilicia Bailey
Sr. EVP & Chief People Officer
CommonSpirit Health
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of
2
“Stay curious. It’s going to help you control your emotions at times when you're like ‘I cannot believe this is going on.’ But if you approach it with curiosity, you'll be thinking how you add value to the business, and you'll approach”
John Smith
CEO & Founder
Other Company
1
of
2
No matter how approachable you are, I’ve found that the higher up you go—especially when you get into the CHRO role—people tell you more of what you want to hear versus what you really need to hear. My advice is to have a personal board of directors with people outside the company, inside the company, and in your own organization. [Find] people who are truth tellers; who can be ruthlessly honest about what you’re doing well and not doing so well.
Mirian Graddick-Weir
former CHRO
AT&T and Merck
1
of
2
Your CEO should be your right-hand person—and vice versa. You need to be in sync with your CEO, because if you're not, it's never going to work. Yes, you have to give them feedback. But if you don't believe in the core values and what they're trying to do for the company, then you can't serve the company well.
Jennifer Manchester
CHRO
Fiserv
1
of
2
One of the things I underestimated in my first CHRO job was the unique dynamic that you have in managing your relationship with the CEO, your peers on the executive team, and the board. You have to be Switzerland, in some respects. You have to have trust and build credibility with your CEO. But you can't be viewed by your peers on the executive team as a mouthpiece for the CEO. I found that being very open in a discussion with those people about that —and the role I need to play with my peers, with my CEO and the board—helped manage those relationships.
Mike Rude
Operating Partner, Cressey & Company and former CHRO